What LucidDaily actually is
rules extracted 2026-07-31 · product launched 2026-07-27Ten pricing-card screenshots plus eight support articles. Everything below is confirmed unless marked ⚠ — the 100K tier and all four of its coupon prices are assumed, and 100K has no LucidPro comparator at all, so no 100K number can ever carry a Daily-vs-PRO claim.
25K Daily
- Eval target
- $1,250
- Max Loss Limit
- $1,000
- Funded drawdown
- Intraday
- Funded DLL
- NONE
- Consistency
- none
- Payout buffer
- $26,100
- Max daily profit
- $6,000
- Best eval price
- $85.40
50K Daily
- Eval target
- $3,000
- Max Loss Limit
- $2,000
- Funded drawdown
- Intraday
- Funded DLL
- NONE
- Consistency
- none
- Payout buffer
- $52,100
- Max daily profit
- $8,000
- Best eval price
- $115.50
100K Daily ⚠ assumed
- Eval target
- $6,000
- Max Loss Limit
- $3,000
- Funded drawdown
- Intraday
- Funded DLL
- NONE
- Consistency
- none
- Payout buffer
- $103,100
- Max daily profit
- $10,000
- Best eval price
- $195.30 ⚠
150K Daily
- Eval target
- $9,000
- Max Loss Limit
- $4,500
- Funded drawdown
- Intraday
- Funded DLL
- NONE
- Consistency
- none
- Payout buffer
- $154,600
- Max daily profit
- $12,000
- Best eval price
- $270.20
Payouts and the trail — the two rules that decide everything
Payout mechanics · confirmed
- Split
- 90 / 10 from $1
- Minimum request
- $500
- Per-request cap
- none
- Cycle goal
- none
- Min trading days
- none
- Payout window
- none
- Payouts-to-Live ladder
- none at all
- Buffer
- start + MLL + $100
The trail · confirmed
- Type
- intraday, hard breach
- HWM includes
- unrealized P&L
- Locks at
- start + $100
- Lock threshold
- = the payout buffer
- Payouts move the floor
- never
- Headroom after max sweep
- exactly 1 × MLL
LucidPro, for comparison
- Funded drawdown
- EOD trailing
- Funded DLL
- NONE (limited time)
- Cycle goals
- $500 / $1,000
- Consistency at payout
- yes
- Payouts-to-Live
- at 5
- Eval price 25/50/150K
- $81 / $129.50 / $259
Our position
- Funded PRO 25Ks held
- 3
- Household eval cap
- 10
- Household funded cap
- 5 across ALL plans
- Free funded slots
- 2
- Budget modeled
- $500 / month
- Instrument
- MES only
Note the pricing inversion: the harsher rules are the cheaper card. Intraday eval drawdown is $15–$45 cheaper than EOD; DLL ON is $15–$50 cheaper than DLL OFF. That discount is exactly what the grid says not to take.
The decision — paired $500/month campaign
paired by cohort window · Daily − PRO net extracted cashBoth products are walked over the same calendar windows, on the same instrument, with the same method family, so the delta is dominated by rules rather than market luck. To be precise about it: this is paired at the cohort / market-window level, not a byte-identical trade list — each arm carries its own re-optimized sizing, and sizing shifts the 2R day-stop, so the two books differ by a handful of trades (at 25K, 2 trades in the primary window). Pre-registered decision rule, set before the run: a 95% CI that straddles zero means "don't replace", full stop. Realistic framing = our actual position (3 funded PRO 25Ks, 2 free slots). Greenfield = a clean start, shown for context only.
Every framing, every horizon
| Cell | n | mean Δ | median Δ | 95% CI | Δ p10 | P(Δ≤0) | Read |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| realistic · 25K · 6m | 13 | −3,997 | −4,356 | [−4,914, −3,151] | −6,071 | 1.00 | PRO wins |
| realistic · 25K · 12m | 7 | −7,891 | −7,485 | [−9,590, −6,213] | −10,489 | 1.00 | PRO wins |
| realistic · 50K · 6m | 13 | −6,096 | −6,408 | [−7,681, −4,642] | −10,119 | 1.00 | PRO wins |
| realistic · 50K · 12m | 7 | −8,974 | −8,286 | [−11,876, −6,987] | −12,021 | 1.00 | PRO wins |
| realistic · 150K · 6m | 13 | −2,230 | −1,778 | [−5,068, +774] | −8,830 | 0.93 | not identified |
| realistic · 150K · 12m | 7 | −827 | +3,972 | [−12,465, +10,056] | −20,081 | 0.55 | not identified |
| greenfield · 25K · 6m / 12m | 13 / 7 | −9,990 / −19,993 | −10,889 / −21,138 | both entirely < 0 | −15,169 / −26,224 | 1.00 | PRO wins |
| greenfield · 50K · 6m / 12m | 13 / 7 | −10,312 / −20,565 | −9,638 / −20,460 | both entirely < 0 | −16,221 / −28,548 | 1.00 | PRO wins |
| greenfield · 150K · 6m | 13 | −7,746 | −5,589 | [−10,131, −5,391] | −13,630 | 1.00 | PRO wins |
| greenfield · 150K · 12m | 7 | −11,160 | −10,779 | [−27,867, +6,269] | −36,810 | 0.89 | not identified |
| FULL window · realistic · 150K · 18m — the only Daily win in the file | 18 | +11,678 | +2,678 | [+3,332, +20,429] | −5,515 | — | not actionable |
The one positive cell is mean-driven, not median-driven (median only +$2,678), rests on 18 heavily overlapping cohorts, has a negative 10th percentile, and is the same cell whose funded arm carries 43.75% death by 90 days and 69.23% by 180 days. Primary-window 18m cells are n=1 and are excluded from the verdict entirely. Treasury arms are a no-op — median annual fee burn is $342 / $693 / $781 ⚠ / $1,621 against a $6,000/yr budget, so the budget never binds and reinvesting payouts has nothing to fund.
And the "daily payouts" headline doesn't even buy faster cash
| Arm · 12m, realistic, primary | P(no payout in any 90d) | Median first-payout day | Median payouts | Median deaths |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| daily25k | 100% | 213 | 10 | 0 |
| daily50k | 100% | 143 | 18 | 0 |
| daily100k ⚠ | 100% | 171 | 20 | 0 |
| daily150k | 100% | 156 | 24 | 2 |
| pro25k champion | 71.4% | 87 | 12 | 4 |
| pro50k champion | 71.4% | 88 | 10 | 2 |
| pro150k champion | 100% | 107 | 10 | 2 |
At 6 months the gap is starker still: median first cash day 160 / 137 / 141 / 115 for Daily vs 85 / 78 / 81 for PRO. The intraday trail plus the buffer-at-start+MLL+$100 floor means a Daily account has to climb further before a single $500 request is even legal — and it dies more often on the way.
Why Daily loses — corrected
rewritten 2026-07-31 after the verification roundRetraction: the "trail tax" was not a cost
The draft of this study explained the gap with a give-back metric —
785–943% of the Max Loss Limit per funded lifetime, 189–269% per
eval attempt — and called it "the whole delta". That claim is
withdrawn. The metric summed max(0, MFE − close) per trade:
it double-counts two trades riding one upswing, and it
never credits give-back back when realized P&L subsequently
re-earns the floor's climb. As a measure of what the trailing floor actually
costs, it overstates by roughly 30×. It survives only as a
labelled upper bound on gross give-back.
The corrected metric is the ratchet premium: over the pre-lock phase only, every rise in the floor caused by a new unrealized high-water mark, minus the part later re-earned by realized P&L — measured against a counterfactual floor that ratchets on realized balance alone.
| Corrected floor-movement cost | 25K | 50K | 100K ⚠ | 150K |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Funded, chosen cells — ratchet premium, median | $0.00 | $0.00 | $0.00 | $0.00 |
| Funded — transient maximum premium, % of MLL | 30.2% | 32.0% | 29.0% | 53.8% |
| Eval, chosen EOD SKU — $0 by construction | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% |
| Eval, intraday SKU — end of pre-lock, net | 7.81% | 11.29% | 10.49% | 9.65% |
| Eval, intraday SKU — transient max, % of MLL | 74.8% | 71.3% | 71.2% | 75.1% |
| RETRACTED upper bound (gross give-back, funded lifetime) | 913% | 864% | 785% | 943% |
| RETRACTED upper bound (gross give-back, per eval attempt) | 189% | 195% | 257% | 269% |
At every tier ratchet_gross == ratchet_capture, so the floor's climb to
its permanent lock is fully re-earned by realized P&L and the
median funded premium is exactly zero; the worst case is a third to a half of one
MLL, not nine of them. EOD-trail SKUs have no unrealized channel into the high-water
mark at all, so their premium is zero by construction — the correct
answer, not a missing measurement. No chosen cell and no paired delta moved
when the metric was corrected.
So what does explain a $7.9k–$9.0k gap?
Three structural facts, none of them a per-trade tax.
1 · Tighter breach basis
Daily's funded floor is judged on the intraday trough; PRO's on the close. The same path that survives on PRO can breach on Daily without any give-back being "paid".
2 · The lock pins headroom at 1× MLL
The floor locks permanently at start+$100 — and that threshold is the payout buffer. Any payout-eligible account that sweeps to the buffer sits at exactly one MLL of room, permanently, with no way to buy more.
3 · Therefore sizing must halve
Survivable Daily sizing is 13–15% of MLL; PRO runs 30–40%. Run PRO's risk on Daily rules and ~15 of 16 cohorts die inside 90 days. Under-sizing 2–3× is why PRO extracts 2–3× more per funded slot.
The transient pre-lock premium and the tighter basis are the enforcers of point 3, not a separate ongoing cost. Compounded across a slot-capped conveyor, that is the $7.9k–$9.0k.
The unrealized ratchet is still real and still causal: re-run with the high-water mark ratcheting on realized equity only and the intraday eval SKU gets 20–30% cheaper at every tier, while all 26 EOD cells are unchanged on every reported metric. It is the size of its cost that was wrong, not its existence.
If you buy one anyway — the eval SKU
cost per funded slot · never-passers stay in the numeratorPass rate is 100.0% in all 104 primary-window eval cells, so cost per slot is purely attempts × price. The answer is the same at every tier: EOD drawdown + DLL ON, at the lowest taper base.
| Tier · SKU | Coupon | Median attempts | Cost / funded slot | Median days to pass | vs the pick |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25K · EOD + DLL, base $400 | $85.40 | 1.0 | $120.40 | 34.0 | the pick |
| 25K · EOD, DLL OFF, base $400 | $100.40 | 1.0 | $141.58 | 34.0 | +17.6% |
| 25K · Intraday + DLL, base $400 | $70.00 | 2.0 | $160.59 | 49.0 | +33.4% |
| 50K · EOD + DLL, base $800 | $115.50 | 1.0 | $162.85 | 34.0 | the pick |
| 50K · EOD + DLL, base $1,600 (PRO's base) | $115.50 | 1.0 | $176.38 | 35.0 | +8.3%, slower |
| 50K · Intraday + DLL, base $800 | $95.20 | 2.0 | $223.73 | 49.0 | +37.4% |
| 100K ⚠ · EOD + DLL, base $1,200 | $195.30 ⚠ | 1.0 | $287.06 ⚠ | 45.0 | the pick |
| 100K ⚠ · Intraday + DLL, base $1,200 | $160.30 ⚠ | 2.0 | $433.24 ⚠ | 55.0 | +50.9% |
| 150K · EOD + DLL, base $1,800 | $270.20 | 1.0 | $397.26 | 45.0 | the pick |
| 150K · EOD + DLL, base $3,600 (PRO's base) | $270.20 | 1.0 | $429.02 | 35.0 | +8.0% |
| 150K · Intraday + DLL, base $1,800 | $225.40 | 2.0 | $595.99 | 55.0 | +50.0% |
Three things worth internalising. (1) The cheaper card is the expensive one — intraday drawdown costs 33–51% more per funded slot despite a lower sticker. (2) DLL ON is free money at these bases — it saves 17–19% per slot and cost exactly 2 lockout days across 24–25 attempts (n=2, a measurement, not a law); the lockout starts biting at roughly 2× the chosen base. (3) Never transplant PRO's taper base — 50K Daily wants $800, not PRO's $1,600, and PRO's base is both dearer and slower. The eval is only 4.0–7.3% of a slot's yearly value, so this is a rounding error — but it's free to get right.
Why EOD wins, restated after the correction. The draft justified this pick with a heuristic — "intraday wins when the trail tax is ≤ 10–15% of MLL" — fed the retracted 189–269% figure. On the corrected metric the intraday cards sit at 7.8–11.3% of MLL, i.e. inside the band where the heuristic would pick intraday. The pick doesn't change, because it isn't made on the heuristic: it's made on directly measured cost per funded slot ($120.40 vs $160.59 at 25K; $162.85 vs $223.73 at 50K), driven by a median 2 attempts on intraday versus 1 on EOD. Measurement beats heuristic — and that makes this a pricing verdict, not a trail verdict.
If the launch coupon lapses, this flips at 25K and 50K. At list prices the EOD+DLL card loses to EOD + DLL-OFF ($595.80 vs $193 at 25K; $656.50 vs $261 at 50K) — their EOD+DLL list prices are a flagged pre-sale baseline. 100K and 150K do not flip. The full-price campaign arm makes Daily worse overall: 25K −7,891 → −10,140, 50K −8,974 → −12,486.
The funded frontier — and why withdrawal policy can't save you
PV3 = extracted cash discounted 3%/month · 16 cohorts, 6.25pp steps| Tier · chosen cell | Risk as % of MLL | PV3 | Median net cash | dead by 90d | dead by 180d | gets paid at all | Median first cash |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25K · r$150 / sweep0 | 15.0% | $1,641 | $2,222.81 | 12.50% | 23.08% | 81.25% | day 81 |
| 50K · r$300 / sweep0 — no assumptions anywhere | 15.0% | $3,623 | $4,443.65 | 12.50% | 30.77% | 81.25% | day 65 |
| 100K ⚠ · r$400 / sweep0 | 13.3% | $5,195 | $6,325.50 | 12.50% | 30.77% | 81.25% | day 65 |
| 150K · r$1,200 / skim25 | 26.7% | $9,985 | $6,619.11 | 43.75% | 69.23% | 68.75% | day 29 |
| 25K · PRO's own risk (r$400) on Daily rules | 40.0% | $1,216 | $567.43 | 93.75% | 100.00% | 56.25% | day 22 |
| 50K · PRO's own risk (r$800) on Daily rules | 40.0% | $2,415 | $1,097.57 | 93.75% | 100.00% | 56.25% | day 14 |
Size at 13–15% of MLL — $150 / $300 / $400 — not at PRO's 30–40%. Transplanting PRO's funded risk onto Daily's intraday trail kills ~15 of 16 cohorts inside 90 days at both small tiers and earns a quarter to a third less. Note also that the ladder is not monotonic: 25K r200 is strictly dominated by r150 — lower EV and four times the death rate. Do not interpolate it.
The structural finding: withdrawal policy cannot buy survival
Nineteen withdrawal policies were swept. At 25K r150 all nineteen produce
exactly 12.50% death-by-90-days — the only variation anywhere in the policy
dimension is the 180-day figure, and that's one cohort moving one 6.25pp step. Same
at 100K r400. Same at 50K r300 except weekly. Meanwhile policy moves EV
by up to 2.7×.
This is a rule fact, not a fluke. The trail locks permanently at start+$100 once the balance exceeds the Initial Trail Balance — and that threshold equals the payout buffer. So payout eligibility requires the account to already be past the lock. Before first eligibility no policy can differ, because there's nothing to withdraw. After the lock, a max sweep always leaves exactly one MLL of headroom and the floor never moves again — withdrawals cannot lower the floor. At sizings where deaths happen before first payout, policy is irrelevant to survival: at 25K r150 all three deaths never took a payout at all.
Two corollaries worth keeping. sweep0 == promimic to the cent — imposing
a PRO-style $500 cycle cadence on a Daily account costs literally nothing, because
the $500 minimum is already the binding cadence constraint; Daily's rules are
what let cash out early, not the policy. And deep-threshold policies push
median first cash from day 81 to day 267 at 25K while dropping "gets paid at all"
from 81.25% to 43.75% — a way to convert cash into nothing.
Where policy does matter — hot sizing at 150K. There deaths are mostly post-payout, so retained cushion is real protection: skim25 buys −12.5pp of 90-day death for −5.8% of PV3, but median extracted cash falls 30%, $9,477 → $6,619. This is the one genuinely close call in the study — if the objective is median cash rather than the death guardrail, sweep0 is the 150K pick, not skim25.
Stress gate
run inverted: can any stress rescue Daily? · primary / realistic / 12mThe gate was pre-registered: a "Daily beats PRO" claim must survive the rule matrix, fill realism, degraded edge and winners-half. Since the headline is already negative, the question becomes whether any stress flips it into a defensible Daily win. It does not.
| Stress arm | 25K Δ | 50K Δ | 150K Δ | Gate |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rule matrix — funded HWM realized instead of unrealized | no change* | no change* | no change* | HOLD |
| Rule matrix — max-daily-profit on intraday peak | identical to the cent | identical | identical | HOLD |
| Rule matrix — news blackout on / off | 0 of 314 trades exposed | 0 of 312 | 0 of 312 | HOLD |
| Fill realism — 1 tick of slippage | −6,419 | −6,158 | +3,773 | HOLD |
| Degraded edge — 2023-08→2024-12 + 50% haircut | −1,373 | −1,964 | −6,569 | HOLD |
| Winners-half | +497 | +517 | −498 | SIGN FLIP |
| Full price — the launch coupon lapses | −10,140 | −12,486 | −1,241 | HOLD |
| Non-promo PRO baseline — PRO eval DLL $1,200 | −7,891 | −8,974 | −864 | HOLD |
CIs, in order: slippage [−8,514, −4,336] / [−9,414, −3,738] / [−2,433, +10,084] · degraded [−1,588, −1,106] / [−2,823, −1,080] / [−6,906, −6,225] · winners-half [+402, +572] / [+169, +908] / [−1,441, +308] · full price [−11,564, −8,766] / [−15,464, −10,130] / [−13,258, +9,615] · PRO DLL 1200 150K [−12,502, +9,958].
* Precision fix. The draft called the two HWM arms "bit-identical"; Codex refuted that as over-claimed. Corrected: the arms are identical on every headline metric — PV3, net-cash medians and quartiles, all death rates — for every chosen cell, but 5–9 of the 16 cohort detail rows differ (individual death dates and lock dates move). No selection flips; the row still reads HOLD. Only the strength of the wording changes.
The one sign flip is degenerate — read it before quoting it
| Winners-half arm | Median net cash | Median payouts | Median fee burn | Median deaths |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| daily25k | −683 | 0 | 683 | 0 |
| pro25k champion | −1,134 | 0 | 1,134 | 4 |
| daily50k | −924 | 0 | 924 | 0 |
| pro50k champion | −1,554 | 0 | 1,554 | 2 |
Both arms make zero payouts and both are net-negative. Daily "wins" by exactly the difference in fee burn — it is a cheaper way to lose. Under the same stress, Daily's 150K eval pass rate is 0.0% in every window and the funded cells show near-total death (15–16 of 16 cohorts). This must not be quoted as a flip in Daily's favour.
One honest note against our own side: the slippage stress moved opposite to the prior. We expected fill optimism to flatter Daily, so slippage should have widened PRO's win. It narrowed the gap at all three tiers — PRO's cycle-goal structure loses more to slippage than Daily's continuous sweep. It doesn't rescue Daily (no cell reaches significance), but the known-bias argument can't be used to inflate PRO's margin either.
Verification round — six passes, every one biased toward Daily
2026-07-31, post-review · Kimi K3 + Codex gpt-5.6-solBefore publishing, both reviewers demanded checks constructed to cut toward Daily — the point being to see whether a negative verdict survives evidence selected against it. Two things moved: one claim was retracted, and one cell's basis changed. No selection flipped, and 25K/50K never moved off "PRO wins" in any of the 18 verification cells.
| Pass | Which way it cuts | Result | Verdict impact |
|---|---|---|---|
| PRO-rules enforcement audit — are PRO's 40% consistency, payout caps and cycle goals actually enforced? | toward PRO | Already enforced, file:line'd and parity-gated. Turning them OFF widens PRO's win by $6k–$24k. | none — shipped numbers are the PRO-conservative version |
| Payout-credit latency — Daily T+2, PRO T+3 business days | toward Daily (its lag is ~1.7d shorter) | Paired delta moves 0.00 at all three tiers. The conveyor is slot-limited, not cash-limited — which is also why fixed and reinvest agree within $60. | none |
| Corrected trail-tax metric | toward Daily | Funded premium 785–943% of MLL → median $0.00, transient max 29–54%. | CLAIM RETRACTED — no number moved |
| Lock-aware two-phase withdrawal — the policy Daily "never got to use" | toward Daily | Provably degenerate: the payout buffer is the trail-lock balance, so the pre-lock branch is unreachable. 40 / 40 cells identical to the sweep twin, to the cent. | none — objection closed |
| Daily price stress ±30% | toward Daily at ×0.70 | Moves 25K/50K by only $117–$389 against an $8–9k gap. Free Daily evals would close ~5% of the 25K gap. | none — price is not the lever |
| Edge ladder ×0.90/×0.80/×0.70 + slippage 0.5t / 1t | toward Daily on the slip rungs | 25K/50K negative in 10 of 10 cells, all non-straddling, P(Δ≤0)=1.00. Evals are not the knife edge — pass rates hold except pro150k at ×0.70 (94.1%). | none at 25K/50K; 150K basis changes |
The finding that isn't about Lucid: our edge is about one tick thick
The ladder exists to prove PRO wasn't shielded from the haircut. It wasn't — and what it exposed is a shared execution knife-edge that neither product causes and neither escapes. At one tick of adverse slippage per side, standalone funded net-cash medians collapse on both sides:
| Standalone funded arm | base median | 1 tick slippage | deaths: base → slip 1t |
|---|---|---|---|
| daily25k | $2,222.81 | $577.55 | 18.75% → 75.0% |
| daily50k | $4,443.65 | $845.05 | 25.0% → 93.75% |
| daily150k | $6,619.11 | $969.76 | 93.75% → 100% |
| pro25k champion | $900.00 | $0.00 | 56.25% → 68.75% |
| pro50k champion | $1,800.00 | $0.00 | 50.0% → 68.75% |
| pro150k champion | $2,700.00 | $2,700.00 (mean 5,625 → 4,275) | 43.75% → 56.25% |
PRO's medians go to zero at both small tiers; Daily's fall 74–81% while its accounts die 3–4× as often. PRO's eval time also doubles-to-triples by ×0.70 (median days to pass 14 → 30 at 25K, 19 → 41 at 50K, 22 → 54 at 150K). Whichever firm we trade, the fleet's edge is about one tick per trade thick. That is the largest risk on this page — and it is ours, not Lucid's. It is also why Daily's campaign delta narrows under slippage (−7,891 → −6,419 at 25K): PRO's cycle-goal structure loses more cash to slippage, while Daily's accounts are simultaneously dying three to four times as often. Cash gap narrows, survival collapses.
The 150K flip — and why it means "not measurable", not "Daily wins"
Exactly one cell flipped anywhere in the round: 150K at edge ×0.90, mean Δ +$11,633 (CI [+5,736, +17,941], P(Δ≤0) = 0.00, positive 10th percentile) — the only non-straddling positive produced anywhere. It is stated here rather than buried, and it is not evidence for Daily.
| 150K, primary / realistic / 12m | mean Δ | 95% CI | P(Δ≤0) | straddles 0 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| base — edge ×1.00 | −827 | [−12,465, +10,056] | 0.55 | yes |
| edge ×0.90 | +11,633 | [+5,736, +17,941] | 0.00 | no — FLIP |
| edge ×0.80 | +3,958 | [−1,663, +8,740] | 0.09 | yes |
| edge ×0.70 | −3,816 | [−10,724, +2,579] | 0.87 | yes |
The response reverses direction twice — −827 → +11,633 → +3,958 →
−3,816. Real economic effects don't do that. The per-cohort book shows why: shrinking
every trade by 10% takes the worst Daily cohort, 2025-04-01, from $1,342 to
$27,607 — not a Daily edge appearing, but a floor breach not
happening because a 10%-smaller drawdown missed the trail by a tick.
Corroborating: daily150k deaths fall 93.75% → 50.0% under that haircut
while its cash median falls ($6,619 → $5,138). The price axis misbehaves the
same way — making Daily 30% cheaper moves the delta +$8,012 and making it 30% dearer
moves it +$1,890, both the same direction, which no fee effect can do.
Add the identification problem — seven monthly cohorts inside a 19-month window overlap almost completely, so the bootstrap treats ~1–2 independent draws as 7 — and the conclusion is not "Daily wins at 150K" or "Daily loses at 150K". It is: the 150K comparison is not identified with this data. The recommendation is unchanged — don't buy — but its basis is "not measurable", not "measured negative". 25K and 50K are untouched: at ×0.90 they move to −$8,631 and −$9,999, further against Daily.
The grid — every headline cell
56 packages · 132 paired campaign/stress cells · 1,888 account-level diagnosticsEverything above is a selection. This is the whole file: every cell the study ran, unfiltered, with the picks marked but nothing hidden. Click a column header to sort (click again to flip). Every number here is read straight out of the study artifacts by lucid_daily_site_grid.py — nothing on this page is hand-typed, and the source SHA-256s are listed at the bottom of the section.
Packages — one row per thing you could actually buy
Each row is a complete package: the plan, the tier, the eval method it passes on and the funded method it then trades, walked over 6, 12 and 18 months as three separate column blocks. DAILY and PRO rows sit in the same table — the badge in the first column is the plan, and there is a plan filter beside it.
Paired deltas + stress — Daily minus PRO, cohort by cohort
The decision table. Every row names both sides of the pair explicitly and reports the per-cohort difference, not the difference of two medians. Stress and verification arms are rows here — pick one from the Arm filter.
Supporting diagnostic — funded lifecycle grid (1,680 LucidDaily account cells)
Every row here is a LucidDaily account-level lifecycle cell — one funded account, one risk arm, one withdrawal policy, walked to death or horizon. There are no PRO rows in this table; the PRO comparators live in the packages table above. This grid is where the funded pick was made, not a plan-versus-plan comparison.
Supporting diagnostic — eval SKU grid (208 LucidDaily account cells)
Every row here is a LucidDaily account-level lifecycle cell — one eval SKU, one taper base, run to a pass or the 12-attempt cap. There are no PRO rows in this table; the PRO comparators live in the packages table above.
Policy glossary — what the 21 withdrawal policies mean
- sweep0 / sweep500 / sweep1000 / sweep1500 / sweep2000
- Withdraw everything above the payout buffer at every eligibility, keeping $0 / $500 / $1,000 / $1,500 / $2,000 of profit in the account as cushion.
- thrT_keepB — e.g. thr2000_keep500
- Do nothing until profit above the buffer reaches the threshold T, then withdraw down to a retained cushion of B.
- skim25 / skim50 / skim75
- Withdraw only that fraction of the eligible amount; the rest stays as cushion.
- weekly
- Full sweep, but requested at most once every 7 days instead of at every eligibility.
- promimic
- Impose LucidPro's $500-per-cycle cadence on a Daily account. Identical to sweep0 to the cent at every chosen cell — the $500 minimum is already the binding constraint.
- lockaware1000 / lockaware2000
- Two-phase: hold a cushion while the trail is still climbing, sweep freely once it locks. Provably degenerate on Daily — the payout buffer is the trail-lock balance, so the pre-lock branch is unreachable and all 40 cells match their sweep twin exactly.
Standalone arm cells — the per-account books behind each paired delta
Each campaign arm's own accounts, before pairing: Daily and PRO side by side on the same window. A paired delta is the cohort-by-cohort difference between two of these rows, which is why it is not simply the difference of the two medians.
Provenance — source artifacts and their SHA-256
Landmines
the things that don't show up in a medianA Daily auto-live event closes the entire PRO fleet
Hitting the tier's Max Daily Profit ceiling ($6k / $8k / $10k / $12k) auto-moves the account to live — and ALL sim accounts close, including co-held LucidPro accounts. The buffer is consumed to fund live, payable sim profit is capped at $15,000 across all accounts with the excess forfeited, and there is no Live Bonus on Daily.
Measured trigger probability is zero — auto_live_triggers = 0
in all 1,680 funded cells, at both bases. Best-day headroom used: 9.3% (25K),
14.3% (50K), 16.5% (100K ⚠), 41.2% (150K) — but 69.7% at 150K r2000, so it is a
live tail on the hot rungs. Probability zero is reassuring; the loss if it fires
is the whole book, including the three funded PRO 25Ks running the shipped
TV-verified champion. PRO does not carry this risk at all.
Caveat that cuts against Daily: the sim applies the $15,000 payable cap per account; the firm states it spans every held sim account. On a 5-funded household the true cap is shared, not 5×.
Red-folder news is a hard breach — and it is not simulated
News trading is permitted on Pro/Flex. On Daily funded it is a same-day death sentence: flat from 1 minute before to 1 minute after the release. Measured exposure on our books is 0 trades out of ~312–314 in the core window (3 at a ±30-minute probe).
Do not over-read that zero. The calendar we have ends 2026-06-17, and these are exposure counts — an upper bound on the risk, never a measured death rate. This is an unmodeled death channel, so every Daily death rate on this page is a lower bound. The rule must be enforced operationally, not trusted to the backtest.
The household cap is 5 funded across ALL plan types
10 evals / 5 funded total / 5 live. We hold 3 funded PRO 25Ks, so there are 2 free funded slots — a Daily account competes with a PRO account for the same slot, it doesn't add one.
And note which way this cuts: the realistic framing is where Daily looks best, precisely because the slot cap throttles PRO's conveyor. On a clean greenfield start, where $500/month compounds into as many PRO slots as it can buy, Daily loses by $10k–$21k at 12 months in every tier. Any Daily case depends on the cap staying binding.
PRO's live ladder is valued at ZERO in every table above
A LucidPro account that reaches its 5th payout retires to Live — the campaign stops simulating it and books it as a conversion, never as cash. At 12 months realistic that is 10 conversions for the PRO 50K arm and 10 for the PRO 150K arm (21 and 11 under greenfield). Every one is a PRO account that stopped generating measured cash at the exact moment it became most valuable.
LucidDaily has no Payouts-to-Live ladder at all, and no Live Bonus. Its only route to live is the involuntary auto-move that kills the fleet. So the deltas above are conservative against Daily by an unquantified but strictly positive amount: PRO's numbers are truncated, Daily's are not.
Buying more Daily accounts does not diversify the death risk
Every account inside an arm trades the same stored trade stream. Deaths are perfectly correlated — a cohort is one draw, not N independent accounts. The per-account death rates (25K 12.5% / 23.1%; 50K 12.5% / 30.8%; 150K 43.8% / 69.2% at 90 and 180 days) are fleet-wide events, not coin flips you can average out by buying more.
The 150K: documented rejection — not identified, not a satellite
The draft carried a "conditional cash-extraction satellite at 150K". That framing is killed (external reviewer Kimi K3) — and not because the 150K was measured and lost. It was never measured. The base delta is −$827 with a CI more than $22,000 wide on n = 7 overlapping cohorts (~1–2 independent draws), and its sign reverses twice under a 10% edge perturbation, driven by whether one 2025-04 cohort breaches a trail.
The within-tier grid facts still stand and are still ugly: at r1200 / sweep0, 16 of 16 cohorts die inside the walked horizon (median death day 81.5, earliest day 9); at skim25, 15 of 16, with 43.75% dead by 90 days and 69.23% by 180. Its PV3 crown ($9,985/slot/yr) comes entirely from the cohorts that extract $23k–$39k before dying — one start banked $39,005.71 across 22 payouts and then died on day 260. Those are within-tier facts and carry no Daily-vs-PRO claim.
The honest sentence: we do not know whether a Daily 150K beats a PRO 150K on our method, this study cannot tell us, and its apparent answers change sign under a 10% perturbation. We are not buying one. And never co-hold one with the PRO fleet.
What would change this answer
ranked| Open item | Why it matters | Status |
|---|---|---|
| LucidPro's funded DLL promo lapses | The PRO funded side of this comparison has no DLL branch. This is the single most plausible unmeasured route to a Daily win. | untested — top follow-up |
| Fleet-wide $15,000 live-move cap | Currently modeled per account; the firm says it's shared. Error direction is against Daily. | not re-run |
| News hard-breach as an actual death rate | Needs a calendar past 2026-06-17 to convert an exposure count into a death-rate adder. | not modeled |
| Day-block bootstrap, start offsets, skipped days | Gate ranks 5–6; the verdict does not turn on them. | not run |
| 18-month horizon in the primary regime | n = 1. Either extend the window or drop the horizon — do not quote those cells. | excluded |
| Identify the 150K comparison — or leave it rejected | Needs a longer window with non-overlapping cohorts, or a resampling design that respects block structure. Until then no 150K Daily-vs-PRO claim exists in either direction. | not identified |